the environment has changed and whatever good this bill has, it's going to take a back seat right now. what do you say? >> well, look, whenever there's a crime, you saw this on the shootings, the murders in connecticut. people wanted gun control before the shootings, tried to exploit that tragedy. the people who are against high-skilled workers coming into this country, all the antiimmigrant groups, are against all immigrants, not just some, and they're already trying to exploit these murders in boston to attack immigration of everybody. i don't think it will work. the american people are smarter than that. yes, the fbi should good of bad guys, evidently they let some slip through their fingers, in the case of boston. but everything in this bill moves in the right direction for security and the american economy, and all the kind of questions you ought to have. shame on the people who tried to use the murders in boston to undermine immigration reform. i don't think they'll be able to do it. >> neil: all right. thank you very much. good seeing you again, grover norquist. in the wake of